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New Breed of Ultra Low Noise Regulators
Update (01/29/13): Revised the noise density numbers
Update (8/27/12): Added the new TI TPS7A4700 regulator to the table. This device can source up to 1 A of current and ranks on top of the list. Also please ignore the noise density numbers, I need to revise them. Look at the RMS noise values.
The table below compares the noise level of some regulators used in current DIY modules vs a new breed of regulators that are used in portable consumer devices such as cell phones.
Just like phase noise in clocks, it is difficult to compare noise values among linear regulators because there is no common ground in specifying noise figures. Some companies report noise density, others RMS V noise, and yet others % of Vout. The frequency range for the reported noise figures also varies from company to company. Thus it is required to convert spec numbers to a common measuring unit. I chose to convert everything to “Noise Density” in nV/Sqrt(Hz) numbers. In order to understand the relationship between RMS noise and noise density, you can watch this video tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywChrIRIXWQ [or here]
The noise density numbers are a good approximation and calculated in accordance to the instruction presented in the video above. They have been further normalized to a bandwidth of 100KHz. (I’ve redone the calculation and this time is correct). The number represents the “tail” of the noise spectrum which is typically a flat line.
The first two rows are application notes indicating the noise density value of the noise floor. AN51 is a discrete design using a ZETEX voltage reference. LM723 is an old part used in older designs. Newer monolithic designs have the added advantage that they are also very low dropout (LDO).
The comparison suggests that whether using a discrete design or state of the art monolithic regulators, we are very close to the measurable noise floor (~14 nV seems the best regulators so far…).
For the diyer, these devices are very small and maybe very hard to solder, especially the micro SMD bump package.
| Regulator | Used in | Current (mA) |
RMS Noise Vout=3.3 (uV) |
Bandwidth for spec (Hz) | Noise Density nV/Sqrt(Hz) Normalized to 100KHz |
| AN124 | Noise floor | 0.16 (peak) | 0-10Hz | 1? (not enough data) | |
| AN83 | Noise floor | 0.5 | 10-100K | 2 | |
| TPS7A4700 | 1000 | ~4.5 | 10-100K | 14 | |
| LP8900 | 200 | 6 | 10-100K | 19 | |
| AN51 | 350 | 3 | 10-22K | 43 | |
| LP5900 | Lorien XMOS | 150 | 6.5 | 10-100K | 21 |
| LM723 | 150 | 2.5 | 100-10K | 79 | |
| ADP151 | Amanero USB, Ian’s FIFO | 200 | 9 | 10-100K | 28 |
| LT1763, LT1761, LT1762 | Buffalo II (LT 1763) | 500 | 20 | 10-100K | 63 |
| TPS79333 | Gamma-2 | 200 | 32 | 200-100K | 101 |
| LT1963, LT1964 | Musiland power mod |
1500, 3000 | 40 | 10-100K | 126 |
| LP2985 | Opus DAC | 150 | 30 | 300-50K | 190 |
| TPS786xx | 1500 | 48 | 100-100K | 152 | |
| LM340 | 1000 | 75 | 10-100K | 237 | |
| LM317, LT1117 | LCDPS, many low cost devices | 1500, 800 | 99
250 |
10-10K
10-20K |
3131 (?)
3953 (?) |
As previously discussed, the noise density numbers are an approximation assuming that it is “flat” throughout the bandwidth of interest. The area under the noise density trace is the RMS noise figure. So basically, if we assume a square area and a bandwidth of 100 KHz, then the RMS Noise = Noise Density X SQRT(100,000) = Noise Density X 316
Note: the second noise figure for the LM317 comes from TNT-Audio [link]. There, it is measured at 250 uV for the ~20Khz bandwidth.
Further reading: http://hifiduino.blogspot.com/2010/03/comparing-noise-figures-in-linear.html
Hifiduino in Greece
Here is the project by a reader in Greece using the Arduino Nano (click for larger pictures)
Musiland Working On Mac OS X Driver
From the Musiland Forum:
Q: “那一号,目前乐之邦正在做OSX驱动这件事么?还是说只有意向,啥时候开始做将来看情况?”
“Is Musiland developing an OSX driver or just intends to develop one in the future depending on the situation?”
A: “正在做。”
“Currently developing”
6/1/11: From the Musiland Forum:
Q: “我看乐之邦压根没把linux、mac等小众用户的驱动问题放在心上,以后要寻找其他能在linux下很好驱动的声卡了。或者采用数字输出解码解决”
“I feel Musiland does not have Linux and Mac customers in their mind from the start. People looking for a Linux solution will have to look elsewhere”
A: 不是不放在心上。
你看能在LINUX、MAC用的声卡,动辄都是几千块。
乐之邦的卡买个几百块,那点利润,哪里能支撑那么多的研发人员……
所以,要慢慢来
“It is not that we don’t have those customers in mind. Sound cards for Linux and Mac costs thousands of kuai (implying small market). Musiland sound cards sell for hundreds (implying much larger market). How can we support so much R&D? Therefore slow development”



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